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Martin Hughes's avatar

It’s not a proxy war. Ukraine is a victim. Victims who defend themselves are acting primarily in their own interests, since it is their lives, prosperity, future, dignity that are at stake. A proxy is one who acts primarily in the interests of a patron, which a victim under attack is not doing. Helping a victim makes her a beneficiary, not a proxy

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Michael Wild's avatar

Point 1. If Russia is hurting badly in this war and wants the ‘Western Inspired’ damage to cease it has the sure cure. It could stop this war of aggression, bring the troops back alive and unharmed (physically) and return to its borders. Bingo. No more war, no more damage from the West and glory be they’ll find that the Ukrainians and NATO have no intention of invading and endangering Moscow. If Russia doesn’t like being in a damaging ‘proxy war’ with the West they could stop it tomorrow with the only cost being embarrassment.

Point 2. I suggest that anyone who thinks the West (or anyone) could successfully lean on the Ukrainians to cede territory grossly over-estimate foreign influence and are dismally ignorant of Ukrainian politics. Any Ukrainian politician who suggested it would be run out of town!

Point 3 Only the naïve or Kremlin groupies can seriously think negotiations for a lasting peace are a chance with Putin. He is not a man to keep promises and all he cares about is Russian geo-strategic influence and staying in power.

Point 4 I see only two possibilities with Putin in power: a frozen conflict/bloody stalemate or the ejection of Russian forces from Ukraine. I think we can put aside the prospect of Russia conquering Ukraine or even substantial parts of it. They’ve blown their chance of it and their army is way too beaten up to achieve this in the foreseeable future.

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